I guess now is the best to share a little project i have been working on for the past few months. : )http://e6pxn462ew3fb2q4a3mvieavq3x6l5hy65jfwaqjsekjoqh2s2ggfead.onion/
"Please take it elsewhere".
Dead foxes are not illegal.
Pictures of dead foxes are not illegal.
What is the host's problem?
Oh! The lulz archive works! Nice!
The real archive is text-only, right?
I call bullshit. I've been around since 2006-2007 and there's been far worse that dead foxes posted here, but some newfag with a micropenis probably doesn't remember the CP spam through the main board and all in oekaki, video links of the Zeta beheadings in the late 2000's/early 2010's.
the only hosting you're losing is that hard-on from shitposting in the /pol/ thread.
buddy where the fuck do you think you're going to have to go when you get this website booted off the net
You're fucking naive. If you've truly been here a decade, you of all people should know that it was bound to be reported again. You can fuck off instead of taking the site down with you.
>>3649192>>You're fucking naive. If you've truly been here a decade, you of all people should know that it was bound to be reported again.
I know it will be reported again because we have a humongous fucking autismo
around here who can't leave well enough alone. But.
I am a hopeless optimist, hoping against all odds, that maybe, just maybe,
he or she will listen and be willing to have a conversation and we'll see how it goes from there. If they want me to make sure I don't abuse animals, that's taken care of. I don't. If they want to make sure my content doesn't encourage other people to abuse animals, I already went above and beyond in my disclaimers and I always start the videos with a personal appeal to consider animal welfare. So that's also taken care of. And if they have another reason, I'm sure we can meet somewhere in the middle and make it work.
Realistically, will it work? Probably not.
>>You can fuck off instead of taking the site down with you.
I don't think I will, actually.
>>3649198>I know it will be reported again
So you just do it anyway? Wow, what an asshole.
Okay, smartass. Let's go through it. logically,
step by step.
So I leave my house in the morning.
I go around for a bit.
I find a dead fox on the side of the road.
I put the dead fox in my bag.
I go home.
At which fucking point did I abuse any animals?! It's a dead fucking fox, I could fucking just throw it in my garbage can if I wanted to and there would be zero complaints. But god forbid that I touch peepees with it cause it makes frustrated sexless virgins like you mad ugh.>>3649201
Or you can maybe help convince that person to not report it, asshole.
>>3649206>Or you can maybe help convince that person to not report it, asshole.
I have no stake in trying to reason with anyone who would report those threads to the web hosting company. Its not like we even know who is doing it.
Not exactly. The images and webms are saved there but they are linked to rather than embedded.>>3649056
I would like to make my own onion site for this kinda stuff where abusers and hunting/trapping stuff is strictly forbidden. But I am not sure if I am up to the task of moderating it because I know the site will still attract horrible people and keeping them out will be a tedious game of whack-a-mole. I agree it should be out in the clearweb though.
Do you lie about people all the time, or are you making an exception just for me?>>3649210>>I have no stake in trying to reason with anyone who would report those threads
But you did whine about the board going down.
It is against Federal law to post photos of an animal that was killed for sexual gratification. The host is probably just playing it safe.
See the federal PACT law for more info.https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/724/text
>But you did whine about the board going down.
Yes, which is a perfectly valid concern. Instead of risking the life of this board (which is already an ancient ruin) it gets purged.
You know what the best option is? Deletion.
Good. That's a good law, I don't mind.
So then all I have to do is attach pictures of the road where I found it, and it should be 100% legal, yes?>>3649211
Hmmm, I didn't notice the links, I guess. I need to check again.
Yeah, it's probably for the best to not host things down there, you will attract creepy people for sure.
A car driven by a transsexual pedophile furry wearing a fox fursuit.
I read a good chunk of it, and it seems to specifically apply to animal crushing
I forgot the code tags so
(1) Crushing.–It shall be unlawful for any person to
purposely engage in animal crushing in or affecting interstate
or foreign commerce or within the special maritime and
territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
``(2) Creation of animal crush videos.–It shall be unlawful
for any person to knowingly create an animal crush video, if–
``(A) the person intends or has reason to know that
the animal crush video will be distributed in, or using
a means or facility of, interstate or foreign commerce;
``(B) the animal crush video is distributed in, or
using a means or facility of, interstate or foreign
``(3) Distribution of animal crush videos.–It shall be
unlawful for any person to knowingly sell, market, advertise,
exchange, or distribute an animal crush video in, or using a
means or facility of, interstate or foreign commerce.
) Definitions.–In this section–
``(1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in
which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles, or
amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated,
impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily injury (as
defined in section 1365 and including conduct that, if committed
against a person and in the special maritime and territorial
jurisdiction of the United States, would violate section 2241 or
``(2) the term `animal crush video' means any photograph,
motion-picture film, video or digital recording, or electronic
``(A) depicts animal crushing; and
``(B) is obscene; and
``(3) the term `euthanizing an animal' means the humane
destruction of an animal accomplished by a method that–
``(A) produces rapid unconsciousness and subsequent
death without evidence of pain or distress; or
``(B) uses anesthesia produced by an agent that
causes painless loss of consciousness and subsequent
At 2 it's A 'and B, not or.
As in, this doesn't apply.
You know that's not going to happen.
➡️ It outlaws purposeful crushing, burning, drowning, suffocation, impalement and other purposeful acts that cause “serious bodily injury” to animals other than fish. It also prohibits some acts of sexual abuse against animals other than fish, but this particular provision seems to have a qualifier that such acts are only prohibited if committed in the “special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States” (federal property). The rest of the PACT Act applies to acts “in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce,” in addition to federal property. This limitation on the jurisdiction of animal sexual abuse crimes seems to negatively affect the federal prosecution of, for example, bestiality videos that are distributed online.
➡️ It outlines exemptions for humane euthanasia; slaughter for food; recreational activities such as hunting, trapping, and fishing; medical and scientific research; normal veterinary, agricultural husbandry, or other animal management practice; unintentional acts; and acts that are necessary to protect the life or property of a person.
➡️ It does not apply to anything other than the specific acts of cruelty listed above.
➡️ It does not cover all acts of animal cruelty.
➡️ It does not cover acts of neglect, abandonment, extreme weather, filthy conditions, or tethering issues.
➡️ It does not cover “puppy mill” issues.
Roadkill would fall under unintentional acts, if it's even mentioned at all, I didn't manage to find any
result of anyone even discussing this law relating to roadkill (because it would be fucking stupid). Also my foxes don't even look crushed, so there you go.
Thread over, debate over, y'all can go home.>>3649224
That's some "but did you see how short her skirt was?" victim blaming shit.
By the way, aren't people who falsely report a crime legally liable in some way? Not that I'd bother taking it to court, but they would be lying about it breaking the law. Falsely fining a DMCA does get you into legal trouble for example.
>>3649225>>That's some "but did you see how short her skirt was?" victim blaming shit.>Compairing this to rape
Excuse you, asshole, you accused me of animal abuse, and now you tell me actually doing SOMETHING to help animals, and it only takes writing a letter to your local representative to ban this shit is too much effort for you?
Fucking unreal man.
Show me where in this thread I called you an animal abuser.
Okay, the other guy called me an abuser, my mistake.
Is that projection? Schools are just fine, imo, where else would you sent those annoying little shits off to, to get some peace and quiet?
Maybe we should send you there for some peace and quiet ;P
>>3649217>>Yeah, it's probably for the best to not host things down there, you will attract creepy people for sure.
I do not agree with this entirely. It's true that it will attract creeps, but that is true for the clearweb as well. Take the old 8chan necrozoo board for example. They had a rule against killing the animal for sex. But people still posted that. Even on here, people posted hunting pics on your threads when you asked them not to.
If you really wanna share your stuff out in the open, it's gonna attract creeps whether you like it or not. One solution is site moderation. Make sure mods are deleting the abusive stuff before it gets too out of hand. And if it seems like the mods don't care or are doing a really bad job and the creeps take over the site, that would be a good time to leave.
If we had our own site, we could both moderate it to make sure no one posts abusive content. If we had to, we could even pre-moderate uploads so that abusive content never even becomes public on the site.
Don't think it's a matter of ethics.
It's just freak'n gross. 🤢🤮
>>3649357>I don't want to see people getting trouble for dead foxes.
I want to never again see people that fuck dead foxes.
PS to the mod who keeps deleting my shit
There's no sex going on here.>>3649355
I think I agree with that. Though, realistically, those people will do their crap anyway, if it's banned, they'll just post it somewhere more private. Although I admit, on some level I don't want to know that it exists, at least. I have enough anxiety as it is, already.>>3649357
If I had enough money, that would probably be the ideal option. A stuffed AI-controlled fox doll would be the best thing in the world.
I could be wrong but my understanding was someone visited /furi & reported the last thread to Ch00b's hosting company ISP trying to get /furi permanently shutdown. The Mods here are probably just taking precautions no matter the content.
I agree, any form on censorship is wrong, but if it prevents /furi from being permanently taken down, then it has to be done.
You have alot of "haters" of /furi, I know some mods/users from e621/furaffinity & kiwi-farms have a hate boner for /furi & want to see it's demise.
I don't know what to say.
I can't believe all the bestiality and actual animal abuse never got reported to the ISP, and the CP spam got so bad that google blacklisted us (you can't search unless you type site:lulz.net) so I'm having trouble believing that the ISP shat itself over a roadkill fox. I'm not doubting Ch00b, I'm just saying he either didn't understand what had been posted or was so bad at explaining it that the thread had to be deleted.
Yeah, they hate this place cause it's not an over-moderated politically correct shithole. Kiwifarms is full of losers who (ab)use ethical causes in order to hurt people, bottom of the barrel human garbage.
Man, that place looks unsanitary as fuck. They didn't use the freezer counter and being that crowded and with meat as slippery as it is, touch anything and something else will land on the floor for sure D:
They do have Jebus on the wall though, Mexicans have some ass-backwards fucking priorities man.
Was too lazy to convert the clip of me playing with the tail. Thinking of doing it later. Tails are nice.
(also, yes, in the upper right corner, that's indeed fox leg and back meat :3)
Absolutely this. By posting this shit you are feeding even worse people than the absolutely retarded "it was already dead" high ground persona you claim to have. It will attract these people, connect them, embolden them, and that will harm animals. It's the same fucking reason possessing CP is illegal, even if "it was already" in existence and you were provably not a part of the suffering to produce it. Don't scapegoat other animal content to get yourself off the hook for tipping the scale when it is all fucking bad.
The hosting company is a private entity so if you want to protest censorship take it to your government instead and let them know you want to fuck dead animals freely. Ch00b as a private citizen doesn't have to stand up for or justify the presence of your content on his site either. The last time the site was threatened with non-existence, the subject in question (Bernal) also became a rule, so fuck off, and mods keep doing your job.
I am from the country of Vulgaria.
We have lots of dead foxes here to fuck.
Lots and lots and lots.
Our President was elected on a platform of "A dead fox on every penis."
Come visit Vulgaria, you will like it.
this, for fuck's sake
Take it up with cho0b. His email is [email protected]
>>3649530>>Though, realistically, those people will do their crap anyway, if it's banned, they'll just post it somewhere more private.
True. Nothing anyone can really do about that. Shitty people will be shitty.
Since foxes are not common pets, I think the odds of seeing zoosadist torture material involving them is much lower. (Not counting trapping in that because while it IS sadistic torture, they already have forums and places to discuss out in the open.) The best we can do is try to discourage it, which is what the disclaimers are for.
I am not interested in creating a necro/roadkill community forum site anymore. Instead I want to make a fox photo and video gallery that could serve as an anatomy reference site. Roadkill and sexual stuff will be allowed but trapping, hunting, torture, etc. will not be allowed. Maybe I will allow people to submit images and comment on images but they have to be approved by mod before they go public. Most of the stuff on the site would be regular fox photos that are kinda lewd like these ones.
Okay, here's something nice, since I'm about to deal with stupid people.>>3649567
Wow, what a fucking sorry excuse of an "argument".
>>By posting this shit you are feeding even worse people than the absolutely retarded "it was already dead" high ground persona you claim to have
You have zero facts to back up this claim, just shit you pulled out of your ass. You don't know if it enables them or stops them. It's just your fucking opinion. Well I can have an opinion too. Just fucking skip the pseudo-intellectual wankery and say that you don't fucking fancy it.
In my opinion I am offering people a pain-free alternative.
There was a time when I didn't know this option existed. And I talked to a handful of people about it, but I used to be into some very dark shit. Guro and up, that stuff and worse. It was fantasy only, but I had all that was needed to want to do some seriously fucked up shit. My roadkill stuff didn't just keep that from happening by keeping me happy and entertained, but combined with the Saveafox stuff, it has made me into a new man, that has re-thought his entire ethical framework. I never gave a fuck about fur farms and hunting until this. Now it makes me physically ill. I'm spending hours a week having fucking panic attacks over this shit, you don't even know what it's like. It worked too well maybe, but I still think I'm better off. If I can save even one person from ending up like what monster alternate reality me could have been, then it's fucking worth it and you shut your mouth and shove your fucking feelings I don't care that you don't like it.
People who want to abuse animals don't need my help to do so, and disapproving and appealing to what's left of their empathy is all I can do, and if I talk to people who are into this stuff and maybe see early signs, maybe I
can talk them out of it myself.
Roadkill is the easiest thing in the world to get, it's fucking everywhere. That's the great part. There's no need to hurt or rape animals. And people who live in cities and can't get roadkill, probably can't abuse any foxes either, so it doesn't matter either way, that's other people's fight to fight, I can only focus on so many things at a time…
>>The last time the site was threatened with non-existence
Fucking please. This site is spammed with motherfucking child porn every week and that didn't kill it, and some roadkill fox will? You're fucking out of your mind.
how the fuck can one person have such a huge victim complex
The First Full-Size 3D Print of a Human Heart Is Herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rfeCSQxDBg
May I suggest bring a dead fox to a body scanner and 3d Print it's internal organs? We have the tech to do that already but we human are not making it a reality.
Also, look how stupid you are, you didn't even understand that guy's comment, re-read the last line.
(obsolete, since new post arrived just seconds before, check >>3649576
He wants to make
a site where this kind of stuff can be posted, and to make sure that no abusive content (hunting, drugged live foxes etc.) is posted, we'd ask for more info about every single post, something I'm not against, but you don't know that, because you only understand what your stupid ass wants to understand.>>3649575
I already did. MONTHS AGO.>>3649578
Fuck off if you don't like it.>>3649576
Thanks for clarifying. Probably the better option.
>>3649582>>>3649578>Fuck off if you don't like it.
just [-] them if you don't like them my guy
collapsing my posts has no effect on anything
collapsing your posts gets the site shut down
stop whatabouting, we're not talking about the child porn right now, we're talking about you, the one thing on this site that's demonstrably a credible liability to it being shut down
>dead animal fucker finally spergs out when cornered
I'm not gonna go away and this fucking bullshit can't fly. You can't fucking delete whatever you don't like. That content wasn't sexual, it was anatomical only. Posting dead animals never conceivably fucking broke ANY rule ever.
If THIS breaks the rules, then we need a rule list.
I'm fine with respecting rules as long as it's clear what they are.
mooooooods the schizo's ban evading
holy shit the autism in here
Because getting butthurt over content that you don't like is not autistic.
And I'm willing to bet that the asshole who wrote to the ISP is in this thread right now, because there are like two-three fucking people on this entire board who had a problem with my crap. Everybody else figured out how to use that goddamn [-] button.
why do you believe you are above consequences
why do you feel it necessary to impose yourself onto a community that quite clearly does not want your presence
Let's test that real quick, shall we.
People who want to be up to date with my stuff and who I'm emailing updates: 11
Triggered losers who whine about my content: 2-3
People who don't care: everybody else
Yeah, nah. Wrong. Fuck off.
why do you find it remotely justifiable for animals to die to satisfy your sexual impulses>>3649607
answer the questions
Because they didn't.
People didn't drive over foxes specifically so I can fuck them. And I don't own a car so there you go.
> keep banning the retard
I suggest a range ban is appropriate now.
jUsT BaN AlL Ip aDdReSsEs!!!! tHaT'Ll sToP HiM!!!!1111
It wouldn't help.
But as I said.
I'm willing to respect any rule, as long as it's written down somewhere. The no Bernal rule was. Nothing else was bannable, unless it was illegal. Human gore is allowed. Dead animals in general have been posted to hell and back (nobody banned the guy who spammed my thread with hunting pics), there is literally zero justification in moderator action here, other than some faggot, who should have never gotten mod powers, doesn't like it.
If it ain't illegal, it shouldn't be banned. And it isn't, the crushing act doesn't cover it, publishing bestiality is banned in like one state and this isn't even bestiality, no state will fucking prosecute this no matter how you look at it.
The irony of kiwifarms autists seething about questionable dead fox content here when the site owner (Null) hosts archived content of animal rape/abuse from the Kero debacle. I guess they think that's fine though because it's preserving evidence for posterity or some other gay shit, regardless of the fact that it's unequivocally worse in every aspect. These same people also have no problem with livestock being raised in nightmarish conditions akin to a living hell because meat tastes good.
Critical thinking and liberty are foreign, if not impossible concepts to the vast population.
Do foxes have tonsils? I figured if anyone would know it might be you. And if they do, are they large or rather small?
i hate you so fucking much
and i just know your penis has been inside that
Also somebody asked in another thread if fox butts jiggle. Yes, they very much do.>>3649682
Did you catch the paw stuff I posted yesterday? I still owe you a MxF paw play video.
That's nice but I
- don't use Lavf55.36.101
- don't do VP8 (VP9 is better, even if it takes longer to encode)
- don't do mute videos because most people have ears and this isn't the 1920s
- don't do <3MB videos, I'd rather crank the bitrate
But do repost my content, it works for me.>>3649652
Yeah, and what the average leg trap user does is 100x more barbaric and cruel than a zoophile who actively rapes his pets, but Kiwifarms will focus on the latter but shrug off the former.
It's all about how big of a lolcow they think they have in their crosshairs. Kero's thread is a billion miles long and they track his every move and every fart and Winlock Tim's thread is barely a few pages. Kero maybe
screwed some roadkill, it's not even confirmed. And Winlock Tim disembowels living puppies and fucks their twitching mangled dying bodies. But one's a popufur and the other's a nobody. Fucking Kiwifarms priorities man.
And yeah, while I'm a meat eater, factory farming and caging animals in general (except for transportation) should be illegal. Free range only.>>3649673
Why? It would have only ended up crushed in a garbage truck and thrown in some landfill who knows where.
Don't worry, the fox didn't complain.
I liked that song since before I liked foxes :3
I do plan to use it some day if it fits.
Capabilities of creating a realistic fox toy.
3D printed scanner to scan bones and store the fox skeletal model in blender.
Cast and mold silicone organs and skin on the skeleton model.
Add the pelt or create a synthetic pelt if you don't want to kill and harvest any fox.https://www.etsy.com/listing/1033915362/realistic-fox-make-to-order
Now I'm really intrigued, what are these artificial muscles made of, and where can one buy them?
Dead fox lives matter!
Fox looks angry lol
Endo guy, I sent you the uncensored image and I'll send you a reply.
I swear if you give me a vore fetish as a fox, we are going to have a talk.
Vore is for dragons xD>>3649811
That's genius :3
But on a serious note, I don't understand why the furry fandom isn't more on the ball with fox protection, with like half the people being some kind of fox. Humans treat them super badly everywhere. You would think they care more about their favorite animal…
The person who drew that has a disturbingly good understanding of anatomy ._.
But they don't understand how wood works. There's no way it can break like that.
I will never understand why anyone would draw something like that.
So you want me to stop posting?
Let's make a deal.https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7380917/5
Get this site kicked off its domain name host (try animal abuse). If it doesn't work, try anything you can, including hacking, doxing, spamming, threats, cp, get your mates to help, get kiwifucks to help, I don't care, get it off dns, keep it off dns. If they change the name, do it again. They teach this savagery as "fun" things to do to together with their kids. It's sick.
For as long as that site stays down, you will not hear ONE PEEP about IRL foxes from me. Feral art allowed. Vague updates about people to check inboxes also allowed. Anyone important has my email, I will BCC everyone when something comes out.
That's the deal. Don't ask for anything else, I'm not interested.
(ps: to fox butt guy, sorry my email is a bit late, didn't get to make the pics, not even gonna check today, I'll have more time Saturday evening, I'll write to everybody I swear)
I have a suggestion, instead of killing wild foxes build them a large cage where they can catch mice if you have an old chicken that is crippled feed it to the fox if it's a male fox build another cage for it if it's a female fox build a artificial den for her to lay some pups, hire some genetic specialists to have a domestic fox sperm to breed out tame foxes to catch mice.
why don't you just report it to the webhost or to the state of georgiahttps://agr.georgia.gov/animal-cruelty-faqs.aspxhttps://performive.com/contact
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Email us at: abuse (at) performive.com . Abuse and Spam reports are tracked from submission to completion when reported to this email.
Because in the eyes of the law the simple act of trapping is not considered animal abuse, similar to forcing livestock to sit in cramped cages and force feeding them growth hormones their entire lives until their bones break under their own weight before they have their throat slit.
I'd give it a try but >>3651330
is right. This cruelty is sadly not illegal in that state.
We need some extrajudicial action here.>>3651654
Did you even read my proposal >>3651144
>>3651145 or are you using an auto-spammer and not even reading the thread?>>3651167
Something new's coming.>>3651174
We don't need to put foxes anywhere. They have been existing on this planet for 12 million years without ruining it and managing their territories and resources just fine. Wonder if humans can say the same about themselves.
It's not the foxes that are the vermin.
This seems to be a problem>>3648993
>>3649021 >>3649023 >>3649025 >>3649040
Why the fuck is this sicko shitbag feedin the fox screws?
>proposed to stop posting foxes or the site could go down
>does it anyways
>"Did you read MY proposal???"
you're a fucking retard
Is it too late to get on the email list?
You can give me your protonmail or ask in private someone who already has my contact info.
I do have some WIPs. I even have one done endoscope video on anonfiles, but I'll spread the link during the next days. It's an exclusive for some, for now.
By the way, I have to warn you in advance. No talking positively about hunting, no trapping, no abuse, no zoosadist stuff, strictly dead roadkill, living foxes need to be helped and protected. Hope that's very clear.
yee i understand. my email is [email protected]
i made the email as a throwaway but ended up using it more, hence the silly name
these are probbly not furries and posers
>>3655226>Who made the fox doll?
Mother Nature and Grim Reaper.
For someone who hates my stuff so much you sure do download a lot of it.
Did the foxy make your peepee go doiiing and now you hate me so you don't have to hate yourself?>>3655224
Every furry under 25 is a poser. Simple as.>>3655226
Oh hey, I've seen this before.
>>Who made the fox doll?
Somebody who wasn't paying attention to the road.
Actually they don't smell like anything.
If they're not washed, they smell pleasantly of fox musk. And lately I'm only freezing them repeatedly to preserve the foxy smell.
And if they are gutted, they smell a bit meaty. A hot bath then will also give off a bit of a soup smell, but it's a good idea to stitch them up before cause the fur will get oily if you don't.
Repeated freezing really does a weird thing on how they degrade, making the process going in reverse (skin -> inside, rather than digestive system -> muscles -> skin) with the skin going bad first and the meat staying good. The fur starts slipping way
before it starts to stink though, so if that happens anywhere, immediate action needs to be taken. A small patch may be fixable. If you wash the whole thing and no further areas fall off, you got lucky. Just dry it properly and it'll stay good. Applying alcohol every once in a while to mouth, nose, dick, balls, underbelly and butt area are a good idea (thinner skin = more moisture from underneath, moisture -> slipping fur).
Fur can also fall off if you accidentally wash it with burning hot water. Basically if it's too hot to touch, it's too hot for a fox.
The more you know.
You just gave me an extra reason to stay alive.
Also I still don't get why you're mad.
If I don't leave my house, the dump truck gets the fox and nobody wins. If I leave my house and bring it home, I win, some people who are interested in anatomy win, maybe some pervs win too, but you get butthurt.
Do you lack a hobby that bad? Or did you want the fox for yourself and are too lazy to go find your own and now you're assmad that I have them and you don't.
Cause this is a furry board. Come on. If you had a fox right now and were alone, I know and you know and everybody here knows you'd look under the tail, don't even lie. And I know you've seen the videos so you know they're clean and nice and fluffy. You'd do more than just look. Maybe grope that groin when nobody's watching, yeah, get a good feel there, the fox won't complain. Maybe smell those paws. Mmmmm. Maybe look into the maw a bit. That can't hurt. Maybe pet its head a bit. You know you'd do it. You 'know
you'd do it.
Just FYI whoever you got that from is full of shit. The fox is dead. The anus is completely discolored due to loss of blood and the vulva has lost its muscle elasticity. The tail is also completely rigid.
Who the fuck is this dumbass? You do not even own a dog nor have you ever been withing 20 feet of one and just quote bullshit you glean off wikipedia with absolutely zero experience.
"their pencil-thin vagina that isn't designed for withstanding friction "
Where the fuck do you even invent this bullshit from?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK1qfnV8PFM
A dog's hormonal cycle is not affected by anything other than nature. And Pyrometria is a bacterial infection that is always genetic. It is also not painful and does not cause sickness. So stop projecting.
You sound like a professional dog fucker
"get yourself right with God while you still have a chance."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzlc-KsIUIU
no, cosmiclife is just really good.
If messaged him, he probably would get mad and block me about animal anatomy analogy.
It looks like a Chernobyl mutant.
Also actually it's just some shitty alembic fur, can tell by the poorly matted seams and Z-fighting.
tl;dr can OP like kill themselves.
And now that Kiwifarms is offline, the lists of names from the zoosadist groups, and the evidence against them, is off the clearweb.
Along with evidence against various other scumbag types.
It's almost as if zoosadists, rapists, and paedos teamed up to help take Kiwifarms offline by riding tranny-momentum, to their own benefit. <thinking-emoji>
And Null is too incompetent to bring KF back up as a Tor-only site.
>>3671576>It's almost as if zoosadists, rapists, and paedos teamed up to help take Kiwifarms offline by riding tranny-momentum, to their own benefit.
You say that as though all trannies aren't pedophiles/rapists/animal abusers themselves.
how could anyone be a zoosadist? My heart is dark and cold, but even I can't help but cuddle my dog when his tail starts thumping or he does that disappointed dog sound.
I'm all about sado masochism, but even I feel bad about having to lock him up in his kennel when I leave for a few hours, and he has a really nice kennel.
>>3671592> how could anyone be a zoosadist?
You are far too innocent for the internet.
You should go to the /zoocore/ board in the hidden tor onion world.
You would learn exactly how some people can be zoosadists.
Its not like I haven't seen zoosadist stuff, there was a thread on here once. I just never heard a viewpoint.
I've been on lulz since it was wtfur. I'm far from innocent.
your buck = broken
I'm surprised this thread still exists.
Sorry I haven't been around but the proxy dnsbl fuckery made it too much of a chore to post.
Also had a bad year as far as foxes go. Found almost no good fox, and missed a couple of good ones.
Did find a golden jackal a couple of days ago. Anyone curious to see that? Probably posting it on the board is still a no-no, so I guess send me an mail.
I wanted to ready something for christmas 🦌
But you know how I'm with keeping any schedules.>>3671576
There are still people looking out for abuse and compiling info on evil people, myself included. KF was shit at getting anything done anyway, they care more about the witch-hunt aspect of it.>>3671592
I've talked a few people down that path, Steam. It's just browsing more and more fucked up shit, and getting in a circle of people who reinforce that behavior. That's all there is to it.>>3675508
Please don't post this shit. If you think you're gonna hurt an animal, reach out, I can ease you out of it.
Aaaaaaaaand the post quote bug hasn't been fixed. I think I pointed this bug out like 2 years ago.
Also like, I still have some of my old foxes. Just feeling a bit bummed out that I lost so many.
Would love to see the Golden Jackal and anything else you are kind enough to share,[email protected]
Beep boop. I sent you some things.
Btw. I have some interesting stuff that is super gross tho. I found a fox with a slightly broken head, but the eyeball was completely crushed somehow. It was dried up too, looked just impossible to fix. And yet I fixed it with a piece of plastic resembling an iris and some hot glue. Wanna see that too?
Maybe don't bring that up, don't wanna give people stupid ideas.
Out of sight, out of mind.
But no I don't remember that. However I do remember people sharing zoosadist stuff like it's nothing when those leaks came out and none of it got yeeted. I guess on the bright side, it was horrible enough to change some of us into wanting to stop that kind of thing.
Thanks, and yes I would like to see the other stuff too, as I am very curious. Morbidly so sometimes perhaps, but curious!!
Same email address as above,[email protected]
I am also interested in your work, and maybe chat a bit if you don't mind)? there are very few people to talk about this…[email protected]
thanks in advance :)
>>3684304>Feral fox but human vagina
Sure, I'll add you. But I'm implementing a new rule for getting onto my mail list. All new members must pledge to themselves to never hunt, trap or intentionally hurt foxes or buy items/clothes containing pieces of fur farm fox. And people already on my list that I catch doing any of the sort w/ credible evidence will be instantly booted, no second chances.
Foxes are living beings that see, hear, think and feel just like us. We need to all be on the same page with that. I'm not gonna ask people to go vegan or anything, but we gotta have a bare minimum and killing things we don't eat being unethical and just straight up evil, for a start.
You need to do the pledge.
And to complete the deal, watch a SaveAFox or WAF video and tell me what you liked about it, or what you think was odd or peculiar in a sentence or two.https://www.youtube.com/c/SaveAFox/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/@wildlifeaid/videos
For you' I'll pick a short one :3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvQaDFdH3Ko
It is difficult to distinguish a fox's sex from a picture rather simply looking at its genitals in reality.
A little bit because foxes have small pee-pees :3
But the balls are hard to mistake if you see them.
Haha ok i don't mind
I swear I will never hunt, trap or intentionally harm any fox in my life :), and i don't own nor will own any fox item or clothing, i don't even like to wear leather or have things from exotic animals, it's fucked up what people do to get em, and yeah I'm not vegan, but I'm still against hunting as a sport and sadism against all animals, including foxes. It's a lot unnecessary pain that makes the world a worse place.
I've seen videos of those two channels before, they're great!
For the video, I question how Fawzi managed to open the fridge and why bring a rat to the litter xD, seems a little unsanitary hahaha
Fawzi seems like such a lovable little demon, I've dreamed about having a fox as a pet but i don't want to harm them in any way so watching videos is good enough for me ^w^.
If you need me to do anything else please tell me :3, here's my mail again: [email protected]
thank you in advance!
excellent! this is 100% the kind of answer I want to hear.
I'll send you an e-mail right away
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible,
I swear I will never hurt or trap a fox. (We don't even have foxes around here). From the little I've seen about the fur industry and foxes, it's horrible what they do to them & other animals used for fur. Living your last days in a shitty cramped cage probably sick and beyond stressed, all for someone to come and skin you, and all for someone else to wear your fur.
And for the video(s). I've always wondered how they bond with some of the foxes off camera. Can they just roam around the house while inside? Do THEY sleep with da humans? What about the cat in mink(s)?[email protected]
*Cat and mink(s) kekeke
Yes, some foxes get house privileges (especially ones born without guard hairs cause of the temperature). Some stay temporarily while they are sick. Fawzi seems to have unlimited house privilege since he's not a red fox. Finnegan usually doesn't cause he pees everywhere, but he gets let in every now and then.
The cats and mink seem to be doing their own thing. The cats are just there. he mink have their own cages.
Do not post artwork of this traitor. He is fucking traitor because he makes 3D models for zoo obviously, but he made a big red title explaining that he against zoophilia. Such artists as the one you posted are closet faggots or just traitors who came to furry community to grab money. Based artists are artists such darkmare, he got wiped on e621 and FA but at least he does support zoosexuality, not like that traitor you posted. Such traitors should be ignored.
He is shit. Fucking idiot who makes 3D models to grab money. PETA is very close to prohibit zoophilia in all countries, PETA makes petitions. This idiot is one of reasons why we will never be free. Because he supports PETA and makes zoo 3D models. He will be the reason when owning a unneutered dog will be illegal.
Did you watched blaire's videoshttps://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=peta+corparate+casket
doing research on PETA and they have a reputation on how many people view them, intresting.
I am endlesssly
frustrated with PETA. They are the only animal rights organization that has the reach and funding to do pretty much everything that can be reasonably done… hunting law reform, banning trapping and fur farms, animal caging law change (free range is better anyway) and yet they waste it on being stupid and annoying.
Also I don't think they are close to getting anything banned, their only successful track record is in euthanizing pets against their owner's wish and people fucking hate their guts :|>>3684645
I didn't know there was so much drama behind it. Maybe he really does but just can't say cause he doesn't want to eat the banhammer. I'd have to talk to him in private I guess for other reasons too
If someone can get me in touch with him that would be nice. Also I know how to not blast potentially compromising info everywhere.
You will see, next in line is neutering against owner wish and if you are against it you will be in cage. 5-10 years to go, you can take a screenshot. Say thanks for traitors who behave like bees against honey. I have never seen gay artists who told they hate gays in real life. But I have seen this phenomenon with zoo 3d model artists.
These videos are not on top. But PETA is sponsored by youtube so they are always on top. Their goal is to make ownership of animals impossible. You will have to get a breeder license to own non neutered animals. First who will be pruned are dog owners, guess why. They hate that you bypass and evade roastie trade-shop, and not participate in economy, but having consensual sex with your dog wife. Government sponsors them to increase demography and making you less happier.
Im all settled, yea yea butthead
Alright, it's a bit hypocritical, but as I said, maybe he just doesn't want to get banned. It could totally explain his disclaimer.
I understand that zoophile rights are under attack in the world right now, I do get that, but not watching art cause people are most likely afraid to say what they really think is maybe not the healthiest way to think about it. We just gotta endure it for now and hope the world gets more tolerant.
Also maybe the roadkill stuff is a legal way around it. I imagine it has to be in most places where it's not also strictly banned (like the UK).
Btw in case anyone wonders why I put my disclaimers, it makes me feel better if they are here. I could 100% get away with just making the stuff no explanations given.
Also lulzarchive guy, the renders take forever man, I swear I'll get to those.
>>3684810>>Also lulzarchive guy, the renders take forever man, I swear I'll get to those.
thanks. its nice to see you back. still use the same email? i sent you something.
Here is a pic of a rubber lizard in my arse.
Are you still showing stuff? Hope I'm not too late. [email protected]
If someone goes to your house and asserts he is new owner and you should go away, will you go away because you don't want to make the guy sad?
This is similar to him and FA. If FA's politics are so contradictory, better to leave this platform and use another one, rather than disgrace yourself and to foot in two camps.
Foxes be like: RAAAAAAAAAAHH
Nobody knew her name. We know nothing about her age or background or how her life brought her to Paris and left her drowned in the River Seine.
But when her lifeless body was pulled from those murky waters in the late 19th century, the girl known forevermore as L'Inconnue de la Seine (The Unknown Woman of the Seine) began an amazing new story in death.
This strange second chapter, a surreal postscript nobody could have ever predicted, ultimately helped save millions of lives, even after her own was cut so tragically short.
Or was it?
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You’re Swabbing a Dead Gorilla for Ebola. Then It Gets Worse.
Carrion flies inside your hood. Sweat turns your gloves into water balloons. This is tough work, but it could predict disease outbreaks.
Sarah H. Olson, a W.C.S. wildlife health specialist working in the Republic of Congo and a co-author of the study, conceded that carcass surveillance had been “a massive, massive challenge.” But other components of the program, she argued, were highly successful.
For example, she said, public-education teams visited hunting villages across a wide swath of the country to explain why it was dangerous to eat or even touch animals found dead. The educators also put up posters and aired radio spots.
Previously, she said, “people saw dead animals as a gift from God, food they didn’t have to work for.”
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Many, but not all, human outbreaks of Ebola have been traced to eating carcasses. But the biggest — the West African outbreak that began in late 2013 and killed more than 11,000 people — did not begin this way. That outbreak is thought to have started when a child played inside a tree where Ebola-infected bats roosted and left droppings.
After years of education efforts in the Republic of Congo, “people there adamantly told us they don’t eat carcasses any more,” Dr. Olson said. “That’s a big change.”
>>3689900> That outbreak is thought to have started when a child played inside a tree where Ebola-infected bats roosted and left droppings.
IIRC, the name of that child is lost forever. Everyone who knew the name died in the Ebola epidemic.
It's not surprising that someone would have to tell these blacks not to eat dead apes, they've been cannibals eating each other for thousands of years, even babies.
NOT because there was a shortage of wild game in Africa, but because they were too lazy to go out and hunt for it. Being cannibals was easier.
Ebola is a blessing that keeps the n i g g e r s under control.
don't forget about Covid that reduce hosue prices under thousands of dollars for other buyers to book into it. Worth it, It's a free estate.
You'll own a fox and be happy.
Police in Peru have seized a mummified human, between 600 and 800 years old, from a former food delivery man who claimed to have had it at his home for three decades.
The mummy was in the isothermal bag the man had once used to deliver food to people's homes.
The man, 26-year-old Julio Cesar Bermejo, will remain in detention while investigators look into the case, a government official told AFP on Tuesday.
Bermejo told local media the mummy, who he called "Juanita," was "like my spiritual girlfriend."
"At home, she's in my room, she sleeps with me. I take care of her," he said in a video that went viral on social media.
READ FULL ARTICLE HERE:https://www.sciencealert.com/former-delivery-man-found-with-a-600-year-old-mummy-girlfriend-in-his-cooler-bag
Based art, shit style. If you're the artist please take some basic art classes. Maybe buy a boom or something.
I wanna kill & eat a fox soooo bad tbh.
Then when I've collected enough pelts I'll learn to properly tan & sew them into a nice comfy winter coat….
& I'll post my handiwork to this specific thread for all to see. 😋
Becouse it's game meat…
Yeah, you don't get much sun sitting inside playing zelda and minecraft
>>3692868>I wanna kill & eat a fox soooo bad tbh.
Be sure to kill it with mouth-to-anus electrocution. It doesn't damage the pelt and it is unbearably painful for the fox. The fox wants to scream in agony but it can't. Its whole body is locked in muscle tearing contraction. No sound, no movement, just slow excruciating death. :)
hope you like garlic, cause the only way to make a predator taste good is stabbing it a bunch and shoving a bunch of onion and garlic into the holes.
Unless its a reptile, they get off for some reason.
Mammals and birds though, ho boy.
I'm legitimately curious about your motivation. Haven't read the whole thread but am I correct about the following?
like foxes, and would like to be intimate with one.
—However, you don't think they can consent, and fucking a live one will just hurt and confuse it.
—So you turn to roadkill because: 1) you can't hurt what's already dead, and 2) you didn't make it dead.
Is it accurate to say dead foxes are something you've settled for to avoid the chance of ever potentially harming a live one? Do you imagine or fantasize about the fox being alive when you're intimate with a dead one? Do you ever find yourself having to meditatively take time to appreciate the above logical process to keep your brain from short-cutting the attraction down to something more primitive like "Dead Shit = Sexy" and getting turned on by dead animals in general?
Regardless, I have to say thanks for sharing. As divisive as this subject matter is, to me it's just more of the unique, unexpected, challenging, weird, and sometimes once-in-a-lifetime shit from outta nowhere that makes lurking on imageboards worth it. I'm on the fence whether or not I want to join the mailing list since I don't have any sexual attraction to this kind of thing, but I don't think I'm ever going to get the offer for OC content of this particular nature ever again.
Mental illness has no logical or rational explanation - that's why it is called mental illness. It's not mere psychological or cognitive errors - the thinking process itself is distorted.
What you're doing, and what he's doing, is simply providing rationalizations after the fact. Everyone wants to think that they're acting for a reason, good or bad, so no matter what they end up doing they will always try and find some, no matter how tenuous. Still the fact remains that he's fucking dead foxes and anyone with a normally functioning brain would not. He's too far gone beyond reason to provide you with a meaningful answer.
It's like trying to ask a person with severe synesthesia to explain why Mondays smell like the number seven. They will answer in terms you cannot comprehend: even if the words appear to make sense, their meaning is not the same.
To understand the matter, consider how speech develops in children: there's a brief period when the child narrates everything that is happening around and in their heads, often talking in third person about themselves. The child literally speaks their mind. After a while, the commentary stops because the speech is internalized and becomes the inner autobiographical narrative - the "you" that is keeping tabs on what is going on. Not all people have a constant inner monologue - they use inner speech only when needed, but the point is the same.
In either case, the part of your brain or mind as it were that produces this narrative is the "person" that answers back when you ask a question. It does not have access to all the rest of the brain processes - it doesn't even have words for all things, like, "what does a sneeze feel like". The other parts of your brain can conjure up a replay of the feeling, but the part that speaks is unable to say what that is - so it tries to make something up.
It's more like a sports commentator that tries to piece together coherent stories from what it knows rather than telling things as they are. For people with mental illnesses, the rest of the brain basically does its own things, while the "ego" tries to piece together stories to explain it in the best possible way: there's a rift between what the person actually does, and what the person thinks or says they're doing. You may have long conversations with them about their motivations and reasoning, but you're just talking with the narrated self that makes up stuff to maintain a coherent self-image, while the rest of the brain just goes its own way without listening to the feedback from the "ego" because the two aren't in agreement.
It's kinda like talking to a chat bot, where the thinking and the talking are two different mechanisms that operate by different rules. The chat bot will happily say, "2+2=4 because two plus two equals five", because it is not doing the thinking; it's just stringing together words in a plausible order to satisfy the question.
TL;DR: When the thinking processes of the person you're talking to deviates too much from the normal, the language they use no longer corresponds to what's actually happening inside their minds. The speech becomes simply about satisfying social expectations.
If for example you ask a psychopath what "love" means, and really have them describe the concrete personal meaning of the thing they're talking about, you'd find that they have a completely distorted understanding of the concept.
I think you have gone off on some tangent that has nothing to do with anything. Why would he be unable to answer logically? Because you feel he is mentally ill? Which mental illness does he have, then? In which way does it affect his logical thinking?
Let me get this out of the way: I fully acknowledge the abnormality of all this and I'm perfectly fine that most people find this absolutely, positively depraved and repulsive; I'm not trying to change their minds. I just happen to *not* be bothered by it and am actually interested as long as this guy's true to his word and not hurting living foxes. I'm not hoping to get an answer from him that would placate the disgust of the public or satisfy the average person (or even me). I am, however, certainly curious how he's laid out his morals in his own head regardless.
If I had to condense this down to the two points that seem to contradict each other, they are:
1) He vehemently advocates for the safety and well-being of living foxes, promotes fox-saving media.
2) Meanwhile, he dissects dead foxes and plays with their parts as if they're objects that were never alive.
It's certainly unexpected, but I don't think it's unexplainable to see those two behaviours coexisting in one person. Obviously, most people would not treat the corpses of critters they love with such indignity, and I do get that because I'm like that. However, I can also appreciate that other people who aren't me might be totally detached from a creature once death occurs, especially with some rando roadkill critter they didn't even know when it was still alive.
As for language like this:
"What you're doing […] is simply providing rationalizations…"
"To understand the matter…"
Please, you don't come off even half as enlightening or wizardly as you think you do, least of all when you use an unnecessarily pedagogical tone while dispensing common knowledge like this. Listen, I know all about how the human mind self-serves and sees itself as the protagonist even when glaringly and obviously antagonistic, it's been well observed for centuries. It's addressed with numerous examples in the first half-dozen pages of chapter one of the nearly 90 year-old book 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' by Dale Carnegie.
My question for you now is what are you even trying to say? You're coming off like all you really have to express is "Don't listen to him because he's GROSSSS!!"
Yes, and? Don't you think it's useful to know if a psychopath has a completely distorted understanding of love? That's part of how you determine they're a psychopath.
If you asked a child molester why they hurt a little girl, and they respond that they'd never hurt one because they love little girls, they're still giving you insight into their thinking. In that instance, they've just revealed they're an idiot who mistakenly believes that somehow, one way or another, little girls can be courted and railed by a grown-ass man without psychological damage. We already know their thinking is abnormal, that's why we're asking them questions in the first place
. Just because their answers might also be abnormal doesn't man they're automatically disregardable nonsense.
And what social expectations is our guy trying to satisfy, anyway? He fucks dead foxes.
"Love is a thing people say they feel but I know they are lying because I never feel that emotion.
And when people tell me that they love me I just don't understand because thats an emotion I do not have nor can I feel it.
All I know is when I'm around people that make me feel good because attention or free stuff or free lessons or something to learn. Or that I respect them.
And if theres people that try to take them away from me, I usually want those people gone" -1990s - 2000s
>>3694091>some people stick pins in bugs
Before that happens, you're either supposed to stick them in a freezer, or put them in a sealed jar with acetone soaked cotton balls.
If your going to screw something thats not alive why pick a fox over a sex toy? I mean technically your not hurting an animal as its already dead, but its still really strange in society to do this. And the sex toy would be much, much better feeling.
Yeah people screwing robots is strange, but that isn't such a feeling of wrongness with those. As they are non-life. Parts of the robot may have been living once, but the degree of seperation from whatever they once were is much greater and obfuscated.
Its like a violation of the spirit of the creature. A disrespect for its life, or is it? Since you using its body for a purpose?
The morality of it is strange because no one knows if spirits exist and there is a repulsiveness to someone doing it from places hard to feel out.
But I could imagine one getting desensitized if theres little reminders of what it once was. But much , much, harder for me personally if it looks just like the animal, skeleton and all. Like if its a fox skin cover to a base of a dildo far fewer people would be bothered by it, possibly.
It would be very confusing if I got a partner/husband and one day they started screwing taxidery foxes.
My first impulse would be "Can't you just screw a plushie like that lyra mlp thing?"
My second would be "Can I even be with this person? Or is this too gross for me, even if he's now stopped and switched to a plushie or toy".
Eventually I would get around to questioning why the person was doing this. Like if they are scared of rejection that a living creature could give. Like are they damaged and need to get well? People often do what to them seems logical and/or easy. If its simply necrophila I'm more confused because I don't really understand that, outside of knowing a dead person can still be attractive shape wise. Like big tits that still look pink, still look a little attractive. But the body being dead would just be like, ugh i'mma throw up if I think of fucking it.
Even if one turns thier morality off, its still worrysome for the disease risks and things. And all in all seems unhealthy to one's body and mind.
There always is the argument however,that if your allowed to kill it, cook it, and eat it. Why shouldn't you be allowed to fuck it when its dead? But most people would rather avoid this path of thinking. Because it is true, but its still gross for a lot of us.
I always saw like cartoons and stuff where they pinned the butterflies and things alive.
I kinda figured if you pinned them after death they might stiffen up in ways that could hurt the display.
A freezer might kill the bug, but it also might just make them really slow. Suppose it depends on the setting.
One thing I always thought odd about my scorpion paperweight was its soft underside wasn't there. Like no one removes that part when a bug falls into amber.
It's useful, but you won't derive much of an answer by asking direct questions because the person will simply fabricate something that is socially convenient, or reply with illogical nonsense that merely mimics coherent thought.>>3694077>Why would he be unable to answer logically? Which mental illness does he have, then?
Paraphilia caused by some other underlying issue - given away by the admission of other mental problems such as anxiety attacks etc. The DSM classifies these as non-psychiatric disorders most likely caused by neurodevelopmental issues. You'd have just as much luck trying to reason with a schizophrenic in psychosis.
>>3694077>"Don't listen to him because he's GROSSSS!!"
What I'm trying to point out is that you're trying too hard to "understand" a crazy person by projecting rationalizations on their behavior and insisting they must pick one of your bullet points. I'm saying you can't have logical understanding of the irrational. You may be able to discern through observation what makes the person tick, but trying to place them in some sort of logical-rational framework in terms of their own irrationality doesn't work, because they can't explain it either. If they answer in terms of your questions, you're simply answering the questions yourself.
> I am, however, certainly curious how he's laid out his morals in his own head regardless.
I doubt there is any coherent system in place, at least nothing that would correspond to the actions of the person anyhow. He will say one thing today, another thing tomorrow, and when left to his own devices simply ignore the entire point as it is not relevant to his business.
>>3694085>If you asked a child molester why they hurt a little girl, and they respond that they'd never hurt one because they love little girls, they're still giving you insight into their thinking.
Not necessarily. What they're doing first and foremost is trying to satisfy the question, to get out of the spot. They will answer with what they think you will accept as an answer, which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with their internal thought processes.
>In that instance, they've just revealed they're an idiot who mistakenly believes that somehow, one way or another, little girls can be courted and railed by a grown-ass man without psychological damage.
And that's you rationalizing the case. You're filling in the blanks yourself.
I remember crushing back before the internet shut it down. It was "sexy foreign girls" either not caring at all about the animals they were tormenting/killing. Or being very nervous.
I tried to desensitize myself to everything in the old days. But I just never watched much crushing. It was so needless and those poor animals.
Like I know I was a fucked up kid, but I wasn't taking animal's eyes out with stiletto shoes level fucked up.
I couldn't believe people wanted to see women crush the life out of bunnies and things with their asses. The poor animals that were trying to get free. Could have been someone else's pets instead of what they got.
>>3694099>If your going to screw something thats not alive why pick a fox over a sex toy? […] Like if they are scared of rejection that a living creature could give. Like are they damaged and need to get well? If its simply necrophila I'm more confused because I don't really understand that, outside of knowing a dead person can still be attractive shape wise.
That's sort of what I'm asking. I've been wondering about the intention behind these activities: does it stem from an attraction to dead things? Does it stem from an attraction to foxes, no matter what? Is it something else? Can it even be explained at all? Hell, for all I know the guy could simultaneously and bizarrely have both a genuine love of critter mutilation and a genuine love of critters themselves, as contradictory as it is. I have no idea, that's why I'm asking.
Up until I saw this thread, I had always assumed necrozoos must be total sadists who'd be alright with killing and torturing the animal themselves. I was surprised (at first) to see a necrozoo show up here and say they've never hurt foxes and also please donate to save-a-fox, but I'm figuring out that's the difference between necrozoos and zoosadists. It never really occurred to me that engaging in necro may not be primarily about the necro but instead a result of some other motivation or set of hang-ups.
>Its like a violation of the spirit of the creature. A disrespect for its life, or is it?
If it's very recently deceased, I'd be hung up on the fact that many of its cells may not be dead yet. I mean, as an entity it's already gone, but it's body may be still partially "alive" and then I'd start wondering if its remaining cells can still somehow communicate with each other or respond to external stimuli.
>necrozoo show up here and say they've never hurt
One could have say a person that wants to fuck the dead, but doesn't kill. They instead rob graves. And they might get a job as a cemetery grounds keeper so they can see who's "a hottie" or fuck new bodies on the regular I guess, I wouldn't know what they could get away with.
A person that does embalming/autopsies is screwing the dead bodies in secret.
Or a small business butcher might get the bodies delivered already freshly killed and fuck them.
I don't know. I don't fuck animals and I don't fuck the dead.
On the one hand, not good under most circumstances nowadays, certainly not IRL.
On the other hand, pretty normal for here, and he obviously was never gonna win anybody over who wasn't already into this. How presentable does he need to make fucking dead foxes look?>>3694155
Yeah, I think a lot about how culture has changed. I think a big part of it has to do with how the internet has been more and more integrated into everyday life. Twenty years ago, trolling somebody off DeviantArt was fairly inconsequential even in the short term. These days, trolling somebody off a platform can fuck their career, income, and social life.
The desire to be shocking and scandalous just for shits and giggles also goes away as you get older. At least it should.
Well yeah, that's what this thread is: the guy fucks and plays with dead foxes, but he's not the one who hurts or kills them.>I don't know. I don't fuck animals and I don't fuck the dead.
Same! And I have every intention of keeping it that way, but I'll admit I'm awfully curious why somebody else would.
I understand the fox guy in this thread pretty well, thanks. By that measure alone, I'd like it if you'd stop falsely claiming he cannot be understood because his answer will not correspond to what he actually thinks, or whatever similar or adjacent reason.
I don't like that your posts are statements and claims that you have not substantiated in any way. I was quite clear in posing a QUESTION to the fox guy. In fact, I didn't even ask you, yet here you are providing answers, filling in the blanks that I left for somebody else to fill in. I think you are the one having trouble rationalizing this to yourself, considering how verbose your posts are and how many revisions you've gone through just for the apparent purpose of shooting down somebody else's curiosity.
Those three bullet points are an inventory of my observations, and they're meant to be sequential; they go together. They're not three separate answers and I'm not asking him to choose the closest one. They're an attempt to discern on my own exactly what's going on here. I'm asking him straight-up if my understandings outlined in those points are correct. If not, I hope he'll say so and enlighten me to the facts. There's nothing about this that cannot be understood. In other words, I think I've already got it
, but we'll see.
I'm not necessarily interested discerning every detail about him either. For instance, the fact that he likes feral foxes that much and the fact that's he's not turned right off by dead ones are two facts I'm happy to take as a given. If he wants to talk about those, cool! If not, I'm fine with "It is what it is."
And I know you can rearrange the semantics of this and suggest that "I don't understand" if I have to ask the question, but I assure you I'm not confused about anything here, and I don't have cognitive dissonance. In fact, I eagerly await his potential response.
>>3694115>fabricate something that is socially convenient, or reply with illogical nonsense
And how do you know that? Are you imagining this theoretical psychopath solely under duress in an interrogation room? It sounds like it, and that's not even close to what we're dealing with here. If you think this guy will only speak fabrications or nonsense, how did he voluntarily share this much with us already? Did he lie about any of that? What "spot" is he trying to get out of by coming on here to show us this shit? What social expectations was he trying to satisfy by sharing this seriously condemnable deviancy in the first place?
Do you not know that the mentally ill have long periods of clarity and rumination? Do you not realize that the functioning mentally ill spend nearly all of their lives outside of a psychotic state? Do you not think that "discern[ing] through observation what makes the person tick" is in practice synonymous with coming to an understanding of somebody's irrationality? Why do you think he'll say "one thing today, another thing tomorrow?" Has he done that before? Which mental illness would you attribute that to? Don't get me started on how you've just drawn an amalgamation of psychopathic symptoms from several different illnesses (schizophrenia, psychopathy, paraphilia) and called it "mental illness," then claimed that this guy has it so don't bother expecting anything real or actually honest from him.
And speaking of mental illness… Man, I hate to get this personal, but your understanding of mental illness is obviously armchair at best. And before you ask how I could know that, I'll tell you it's partially from your own incoherence across your own posts; cherry-picking symptoms from several maladies and applying them to fox guy with no substantiation. But the real giveaway is that you've made zero effort to refer to the mentally ill empathetically in any of your posts. Actual professionals and experts (I.E. people who WANT to be around the mentally ill) don't talk about them in the dismissive, lost-cause tone that you have, even outside of their professions.
Please, do go on fooling yourself. You're making up the story here and simply waiting for the other guy to go "yeah, that's it!" - but you have no idea whether that's actually true. Basic kitchen psychology in action.>>3694262
Because that's what you do. When there's no real answer to give, the "talking mind" simply makes up some shit to fill the gap to satisfy the question. Otherwise the person is left with the anxiety of not being able to answer. You don't have to be a psychopath - even a normal sane person who's caught off guard will sometimes just make up shit in answer to simple questions because they are unable to process the idea right away.
That's called "confabulation" - a very common feature in many neurological disorders that affect memory and logical thinking.
Too much talking 💀 send foxes
What the fuck is wrong with you?
HEY BOYS, LOOKS LIKE WE GOT A KERO THE WOLF WANNABE! People like you with your twisted, vile logic gives us regular furries in the fandom a bad name. Get some help. And stay out of our community; you're not welcome here.
In the future I plan on having a pet fox. If I see you anywhere near it you're dead.
Foxes also are for sexing. But this is only a part of zoosexuality. Foxwife happylife
Enjoy your rabies.
I fox'd a fox once, never got any appreciation for the fish sticks.
At least the raccoon stayed and freaked people out sitting on my lap at the smoke pit.
I ended up getting some tick and flea spray for him, and a dewormer (which he probably did not enjoy). My sergant was not happy that I was a raccoon whisperer, still everything went ok until some guy kicked the raccoon, and he lost faith in humanity.
Up until the kicking incident, we'd always take a little last bit of our meals from the chow hall and give him some snacks.
I also have a raccoon on Paris Island named after me.
I was Air Force, so a marine base naming a raccoon after me is all because of one guy. We hate each other now.
This thread fucks
Now make her dead.
Are they cos-playing the Starwars - Ice Planet of Hoth scene?