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341beaa5 No.3718989[View All]

Let's have a Star Trek thread. Discussion of politics relevant to any of the series is fine.
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f0804ebc No.3719483

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Spoken like a true ignoramus. You are an idiot, 3B. Do you even science?

81ade6ba No.3719485

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there was a dr who episode that explored that notion. A giant space ship close to a black hole where the bottom of the ship was infinitely faster than the top of the ship.

Personally, I don't care for theoretical physics that can't be proven or disproven. I like facts, everything else is like DnD logic, fun to play with, but useless in irl.

81ade6ba No.3719488

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until we actually get close to FTL travel, were just relying on a hypothesis by some weirdo train engineer from WWII. Smart as he was, he isn't infallible.

81ade6ba No.3719493

or in his words.
Schlampe, die Scheiße ist abgefahren

81ade6ba No.3719494

also really, we can barely get a ship into atmosphere. I'll never be alive to see viable space travel.

81ade6ba No.3719495

hell N kora can barely launch a rocket without giving a slightly moist panic fart every time they hit the launch button.

03fd9ce5 No.3719508

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> I'll never be alive to see viable space travel.
Maybe. SpaceX's methane fueled reusable rockets are interesting. It might be a good way to get to orbit.

Then if practical fusion power ever comes to pass, that would open up interplanetary travel within our solar system. Of course, practical fusion has been "fifty years away" for more than fifty years now. :-/

81ade6ba No.3719510

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Well, hope you're right. Launching into space powered by cow farts would be like the best middle finger to vegans.

81e63086 No.3719516

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>Personally, I don't care for theoretical physics that can't be proven or disproved.

The speed of light limit can and has been proven many, many times.


46ec1c5e No.3719518

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The speed of light is more than the name implies; it's really the speed of causality. Going faster implies breaking causality. C is theorized to be the upper limit to how fast information or objects can travel. Alcubierre drives are thus most likely impossible to build.


Critical thinking question: The Higgs boson was created at the LHC by colliding two protons. The Higgs has a mass of 125.11 GeV, but a proton has a mass of 938.27 MeV. How is it possible to create a Higgs particle 66.7 times more massive than the combined protons that went into making it?

f141c066 No.3719521

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>no, you can not create a "warp drive" that goes FTL.
>Typed unironically on a computer across a planetary network in a land protected by weapons that are autonomous.


Its witchcraft!


f141c066 No.3719522

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>The Higgs boson was created at the LHC by colliding two protons

>How is it possible to create a Higgs particle 66.7 times more massive than the combined protons

You introduced energy to accelerate the protons. Energy and matter are interchangeable.

46ec1c5e No.3719523

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f385274d No.3719525

>Mass increases
>Relativistic mass

46ec1c5e No.3719530

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The relativistic mass increases with increase in velocity. The rest mass is invariant. Brian Greene does a good job explaining this:


46ec1c5e No.3719551

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Read this article recently. Do you consider Star Trek a spiritual wellspring?

Really ought to be more precise with my language here. Meant "relativistic mass increases with increase in the magnitude of velocity" i.e. with increase in speed, as stated in the above slide. If the velocity is negative, the relativistic mass increases with decrease in velocity.

81e63086 No.3719606

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According to our current understanding of how the universe works, this is true. There is no way to make a FTL warp drive but it won't matter because we'll just send robots to explore space and build warp gates while we populate the near by planets.

e3fcfb88 No.3719612

if you prep the particles for warp drive maybe
assuming you just jump into warp and into oblivion maybe (a place with no particles)
or that you have kicked a particle in some sort of golden rule and you are going light speed without warping and moving thus is faster

c50c33c0 No.3719618

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> h64h46g.png
Wrong fucking show, twat.

c98bccfe No.3719681

There is no relativistic mass there is only one mass which is invariant. It's not mass that increases but energy. You can't just arbitrarily attribute the gamma factor to mass. It applies to the whole equation. I don't know why they keep teaching this approach in schools. Probably so you can keep the classic p_vec = m * v_vec equation. However if you apply it to other classic equations like F_vec = m * v_vec you may get wrong results. If you evaluate F_vec = dp_vec/dt you'll end up with with a force vector that depends not only on the acceleration vector but also on the velocity vector. If you still try to uphold a concept of relativistic mass, you would have to accept that mass is now a vector that depends not only on velocity but also on its direction.

9e2009d2 No.3719682

as soon as relativistic mass occurs it occurs on a curve so the perspective must be invariant for an invariant mass

if the invariant change occurs its it must change the perspective still

this accounts for light-waves and the curvature of time space

a theory of relativity can be applied
and the perspective can hold special relativity in warp timespace or hyperspace or whatever that the perspective adheres to an invariant mass as a center of origin and that transfers as to the observed curve in whatever dynamic or change

that is how you give warp features in warp drive
and how its somehow not your head that is being "asymmetrified throughout congruency" until it eventually collapses into itself from a change of velocity or a hypercritical collapse resorting to order of magnitude (becoming a blackhole in spacetime)

fd5fadee No.3719691

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>According to our current understanding

81e63086 No.3719698

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There is no such thing as being in a place with no particles because you are made of particles. An imaginary FTL drive can move at any speed you want but real things have mass, and you can't "prep" something to break the laws of physics.

9171fc22 No.3719703

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>Wrong fucking show, twat.

Agreed, but you're a twat for complaining about whatever they posted.

f0804ebc No.3719711

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So claims the twat who posted a photo of a talking metallic penis.

9171fc22 No.3719713

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Get your head out of the gutter you knob neck.

46ec1c5e No.3719733

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>It's not mass that increases but energy
Nope. Pic related.
>classic equations like F_vec = m * v_vec
Nope. F = ma in Newtonian mechanics.
>mass is now a vector
Nope. Mass is scalar.

36b20a09 No.3719745

>Nope. Pic related.
Mass can be converted into energy and energy into mass. Just like you can convert other forms of energy like chemical/kinetic energy. It doesn't tell you which form of energy is present and it does not tell you that you need increasing mass for special relativity.

>Nope. F = ma in Newtonian mechanics.

True. I meant F_vec = m * a_vec. It was a copy&past error.

>Nope. Mass is scalar.

Exactly. But it would become dependent on direction if you kept using relativistic mass in other newtonian formulas. You would have to introduce concepts like longitudinal mass and transverse mass.
All unnecessary if you accept mass as invariant and only use relativistic energy and momentum.

By the way, even Einstein said it himself. This paper explains it in more detail:

a77056fa No.3719780

Good evening everyone this is your local lulz thread commentator and oh boy doozy have we got a whopper today! Everyone knows star trek, everyone loves it, and if you've been around town lately you'll know the standard procedure is to immediately proclaim that DS9 was the best series because fuck Roddenberry, but our thread commentators tonight have decided to bypass that step completely and dive headlong into politics. Just to summarize what we've witnessed so far:
BD calling all 'leftists' pedophiles without ackowledging the catholic church, modern libertarian trends or Hitler's jewish loli. This was followed up by the hoy poloy of shills and the "I'm so right wing I have nothing to do all day but talk politics on a furry board" set declaring that Star Trek was left wing lunacy that wasn't popular, except that actually despite all evidence to the contrary Star Trek was a right wing show that celebrated fascism. After that astounding demonstration of insane political lensing the thread devolved into a sober ackowledgement that everyone involved is a massive star trek nerd, and also massive math/physics nerds, and just at this moment we may be on the verge of determining once and for all whether FTL travel is possible. Despite all of this activity the trickle of star-trek based furry porn has been pretty darn disappointing, though some points have to be given to the borg alien probe comic with the green bird guy getting it up the ass.
Back to you guys in the studio.

9171fc22 No.3719794

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>the trickle of star-trek based furry porn has been pretty darn disappointing

46ec1c5e No.3719829

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For those genuinely interested in learning physics, I highly recommend The Feynman Lectures on Physics. They're kinda famous within the physics community. And they're freely available online, so no excuse. There's even a brilliant section on relativistic mass. ;)


Pretty much.

5e290fff No.3719831

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I always felt Star Trek downplayed the dangers of transporter technology. They should have shown more transporter disasters such as people materializing halfway inside solid objects or arriving without their clothes. :)

46ec1c5e No.3719833

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Feynman's enthusiasm is contagious. Quote:

The mass of the object which is formed when two equal objects collide must be twice the mass of the objects which come together. You might say, "Yes, of course, that is the conservation of mass." But not "Yes, of course," so easily, because these masses have been enhanced over the masses that they would be if they were standing still, yet they still contribute, to the total M, not the mass they have when standing still, but more. Astonishing as that may seem, in order for the conservation of momentum to work when two objects come together, the mass that they form must be greater than the rest masses of the objects, even though the objects are at rest after the collision!

c50c33c0 No.3719843

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Don't ask me, I have no idea what's going on here.

9e2009d2 No.3719983

Ftl Fuel can be achieved because energy pervades the limitation of matter and therefore a particle rides on a wave. The energy is relative to a lightwave in that the wave is adjusted to a faster than light frequency. To do this involves using the fuel-component as the engine itself. An antimatter fuel being used would be faster than light. Holding a superfluid-emp field in which this would occur and all its universal plasma altering properties it would be harnessed and fashioned as a faster than light-fuel-based capsule. The capsule may be fashioned into a ship-model made out of the hyperplasma. The hyperplasma would contain an event singularity in the enclosure of its superfluid, that would be the ship-environment. It could transport safely in a ftl condition throughout timespace as separate-from-lightwaves but in a field comparable to light "a universally quantum zerospace". As it breaks its warp in the distengration of its active superfluid (fuel exhaustion), it can release its singularity having piloted warp space into or from a "holographic enclosure" all while using antimatter fuel.

9e2009d2 No.3719985

The fuel most likely most be fabriciated from a hub in which the ships may be activated or deactivated. Or self deactivating.

4c59ae82 No.3720008

Thank you, AI.

81e63086 No.3720045

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bd537261 No.3720076

The neckbeardery in this thread is astonishing and beyond my lengthy experience and imagination… so what are you and your beards doing to stop the real-life ww3 that's now being advanced into the next (global mass-extinction) phase by the zionists?
Question partially related to Star Trek, because according to that franchise, all the cool and good stuff started after almost every human/animal got brutally wiped off the planet. Problem is, that's just a sick zionist fantasy - the first ones to get killed during any major war are always the good ones, so we'll just be left with the trash that won't be able to do anything worthwhile.

36b20a09 No.3720129

>so what are you and your beards doing to stop the real-life ww3 that's now being advanced into the next (global mass-extinction) phase
Why would I want to stop it? We desperately need a reset.

9171fc22 No.3720143

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81e63086 No.3720512

All these right-wingers waiting for the end of the world will be the first to die. They don't have the education to survive in a world that isn't designed to keep the stupid alive.

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81ade6ba No.3720600

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I admittedly have to agree.

Given my historic lines of work, growing up where I did, and living in Idaho for a few years, I've ran into a lot of preppers and mormons.

Even the most prepared ones I've me might have tons of ammo, enough guns to arm a small army, dehydrated food to last someone a fallout sometimes even with a bunker, and occasionally "end of the world seed banks."

… But most of the time the seeds and food are way past expiration, guns only get you so far, even for hunting. Look at the great depression era, poaching was so bad that you couldn't hunt out of season if you wanted to, it was all tapped out. Plus even if you have an old nuclear bunker, chances are the filters were solidified, and no maintenance was ever done since the 80's, and even if you did keep it up and running, they would never protect you from the atmosphere igniting 300x over like our current scorched earth policy guarantees.

Personally, I'm not worried about an end of the world event. If the Fallout series has taught me anything, just having a german shepherd increases my survivability rate astronomically. Unless its a zombie apocalypse, in which case my shit splotchy beard almost guarantees early death.

81ade6ba No.3720602

Not saying I have a shit splotched beard right now, but there is a reason I just rock the goatee, literally everything else grows in at random, some of it not even the same color. Its a disaster. It tested it out during the quarantine, and it came in making me looking like a patched together hobo who was just introduced to the concept of a razor, and stopped half way through the experience.

eed5a690 No.3720630

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Hey Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his Dunning-Kruger level?

9171fc22 No.3720706

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>Not saying I have a shit splotched beard right now, but there is a reason I just rock the goatee, literally everything else grows in at random, some of it not even the same color.


81ade6ba No.3720722

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hey, we've already settled that I'm surprisingly attractive. I just can't grow a beard. Sue me, at least I don't have the bald gene.

On the plus side, not having body hair goes with the beard thing. I never have to shave… well my arm pits are out of control, but thats just like 30 seconds a month to trim those down.

6b31cdf6 No.3720725

>Hah, stupid chuds don't know how to interface with the synthesizer modem to requisition their nutrient paste!

9171fc22 No.3720736

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So you have hairy armpits like those women in those Italian porn videos.

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